
Perpetual question-askers and answer-seekers about how we ALL can thrive.
Lawyer. Amateur historian. Multi-ethnic mothers. Positive Psychology.
Harvard-educated best friends of over 27 years.
Talk smart. Think deeper.
At a time when information comes at you faster than you can process it, do you find yourself wondering:
What do you mean by that?
Join multi-ethnic moms Sara + Misasha - two wickedly smart, heart-led, long-distance best friends - as they deconstruct current events, interview experts, and suggest actions you can take to stay on the humane side of history. You’ll find yourself listening, learning, and feeling inspired to do something new after each interaction.
If you can never get enough information but also don’t want to feel overwhelmed… congratulations, you’ve found your people.
Join our community of curious folks who constantly wonder:
What do you mean by that?
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What Do You Mean By That? is a show dedicated to helping folks talk smarter and think deeper about the world around us. Whether it’s about science, history, current events, or more, our community consists of people who want to be better humans.
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We inspire people to take action by leading with empathy, sharing stories, and educating with facts. Available as keynote speakers, educators, and moderators for both virtual webinars and in-person sessions. Reach out to learn more for your ERGs, schools, corporations, firms, and more.

Listen | Learn | Act
Nothing is more powerful than someone's story, told in their own words. Through listening, we practice being present, open-minded, and accepting that there can be different perspectives and different lived experiences.
You don't know what you don't know - sometimes through no fault of your own. We see this as a way to not only broaden your understanding, but also to challenge your assumptions about the world and your place in it.
Listening and learning are great, but how do we get to change if we're not willing to do anything about it? Through action, we turn understanding into meaningful change, one small step at a time.
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